Since French cars have already withdrawn from the American market, there is no collision result of French cars, so we still look for data from Europe, the home base of French cars. The authoritative collision detection agency E-NCAP has the collision results of almost all cars (except China).

Like C-NCAP, the crash test results of E-NCAP are all indicated by the asterisk "",* * * has five stars, and the higher the star, the better the crash safety performance of the car.

But even if they are all five stars, there is still a big difference between cars of the same class. Which is better or worse depends on the scores of these four indicators (adult passengers, child members, pedestrians, safety assistance).

compact car

Peugeot 308

Comparison of crash performance with other cars of the same class

Although Peugeot 308 is also a five-star achievement, there is still a gap compared with other cars in terms of sub-item scores.

In terms of occupant protection, Peugeot 308 scored 92%, while Golf and carraro scored 94%.

Peugeot 308 is far weaker than Toyota Corolla in 40% crash score.

As shown in the above figure, a careful analysis of Peugeot 308' s head-on offset collision results shows that both the dummy's chest and legs are injured, while German Golf and American Fox's head-on offset collision, the dummy is basically green and excellent, while Japanese Corolla's dummy only has yellow chest and green legs, which is lighter than Peugeot 308. At least this legal system represents the car model, and its safety is not the best compared with other cars.

Although Ford Focus scored 92% as an adult passenger of Peugeot 308, the scores of child protection and pedestrian protection in the back seat of the car were higher than those of Peugeot 308.

Citroen C4

Citroen and Peugeot are on the same platform, with different designs and interior styles. It may be because Citroen C4 was listed earlier than Peugeot 308, and it was listed at 20 10, so the score of occupant protection was only 90%, which was 4 percentage points lower than Peugeot 308.

Impact injury degree of Citroen C4 pedestrian protection.

The most terrible thing is the design of the front of the car, which has poor protection for pedestrians and scored 43%. The collision between the head and pelvis is red, which will endanger the lives of pedestrians.

Comparison of collision injury degree

Citroen C4 in legal system, compared with Japanese, German and American, compared with the degree of side impact injury. The chest injury of C4 train is dark red, which is the most serious fault in several cars. The best performer is Japanese Toyota Corolla, only the chest is yellow, while German Volkswagen Golf and American Ford Focus have lower orange chest injuries and are on the verge of passing.

In the whipping test, the neck protection of Japanese cars, German cars and American cars is excellent in green, and Citroen C4 neck protection will be damaged if it is not enough, indicating that the orange level is on the verge of passing.

Citroen C4 models in the domestic market show the situation that grandpa and dad live under the same roof for several generations, including Sega, C4 Sega and C4L. If you don't know, just the name will be confused. Which is the real C4?

Citroen elysee

Elysee is also a veteran of the domestic auto market. It first entered the China market in 2004. Now the generation sold in China is the same as that in Europe. It's really hard to see the collision result of the European version of the Elysee. Three stars, the score of adult occupant protection is 7 1%, and the score of pedestrian protection is 54%. These two projects are very serious.

Comparison of crash performance with other cars of the same class

Let's compare the competing models of Citroen Elysee. There are Skoda Haorui in Germany, Honda Fit in Japan and Ford Carnival in the United States, all of which are five-star categories, with scores above 90%, with great differences.

Comparison of collision injury degree

The driver's chest and legs are orange from the front of the collision, which proves that the injury is very serious. The chest injury caused by the side column collision is also red. There are also rear-end collisions, and passengers in the back row may break their necks, all of which are the causes of injuries.

Pedestrian protection, pelvic collision 0 points, stay away when you see the Elysee. Don't compare this car with Japanese, American and German, because it can't reach the five-star level.

Medium car

Peugeot 508

Comparison of crash performance with other cars of the same class

The collision data that Peugeot 508 can find in E-NCAP is 20 1 1 year, and the adult occupant protection score is 90%. Compared with Japanese, German and American models of the same level, Volkswagen Passat and Ford Mondeo are 85% and 86% respectively.

However, looking at the detailed collision results, Volkswagen Passat and Ford Mondeo are still safer than Peugeot 508. The reason is that the collision standard of E-NCAP has been improved in 20 14, so it is clear to compare it in detail.

Comparison of collision injury degree

The impact test of Peugeot 508 was carried out at 20 1 1, with a total score of 32.5/90%, while that of Volkswagen Passat and Ford Mondeo was 32.6/85% and 33/86% respectively, with a score of 20 14. E-NCAP improves the collision score by one star in 20 14.

Moreover, judging from the injury of the dummy, the side column of Peugeot 508 was seriously injured when it touched the chest, and the four models were the least injured compared with mazda 6 and Volkswagen Passat. In terms of pedestrian protection, Peugeot 508 delayed upgrading products, and the pedestrian injury score was 465,438+0%, which was worse than that of Japanese, German and American departments.

Citroen C5

Speaking of French cars, one has been sold for a long time, and Citroen C5 is second to none. In Europe, the collision result of this car is still in 2009, and there has been no major change to replace it. I have great confidence in my own safety.

Citroen C5 side column touches the chest red, which is the worst evaluation, worse than Peugeot 508. The front seat is rear-ended, and the neck is in danger of breaking.

Such collision results are not as good as Volkswagen Passat, Ford Mondeo and mazda 6, nor as good as our cousin Peugeot 508.

Small compact SUV

Renocarbine

Comparison of crash performance with other cars of the same class

Renault cabin is a small SUV, which is an urban SUV transformed from the platform of a small car. Other cars in the same class as this car include Honda Binzhi, Ford Wing Bo and Skoda Yeti. Binzhi's adult occupant protection is 86%, and the test scores of 20 15 and 20 14 improve the standard of E-NCAP, so the total collision score is higher than the other three cars.

Comparison of collision injury degree

The chest of Renault cabin is dark red, the best side impact of Honda Binzhi is all green, and the chest of Ford Wing Beat and Skoda Yeti is yellow and orange respectively.

Peugeot 2008

The impact performance of Peugeot 2008 is slightly better than Renault cockpit, and the dummy is slightly injured. Sidebar touch score chest orange, passing level. After whipping, the neck is also at this level.

Damage degree of Peugeot 2008 crash test

Judging from the overall car series of small SUVs, the results are not the best. The safety of small cars is not as good as that of compact and medium-sized cars, and so is SUV. French cars are not particularly good at this level, but Japanese cars are good, which is also related to the early start of Japanese small cars, so they have more experience in safety design.

Peugeot 3008

Compact SUV is a level that all car companies attach great importance to. No matter in Europe or China, many models sell well. The Japanese, American and German departments at the same level include Mazda CX-5, Ford Maverick and Volkswagen Tiguan.

Comparison of crash performance with other cars of the same class

Peugeot 3008 is a 20 16 model year, and the latest crash data of the latest model has a crash score of 86%. The collision scores of the other three models are all above 90%, and Tiguan is 20 16. Just look at the scores, peugeot 3008 has been at the bottom.

Look at the detailed comparison of collision injuries.

On the left is peugeot 3008, and on the right is Volkswagen Tiguan.

Peugeot 3008's side column touches the chest in yellow, and the legs and chest in the frontal offset collision are yellow and orange. These places are not as good as the Volkswagen Tiguan. Only the female passengers in the back row can't protect their chests well.

Ford maverick is on the left and Mazda CX-5 is on the right.

The collision data of Mazda CX-5 and Ford Maverick is 20 12. Judging from the injury of the dummy, peugeot 3008 suffered more serious chest injuries than Mazida CX-5 and Ford Maverick.

Reno Correga

Renault Correga is a brand-new compact SUV of this brand, which was listed in China on 20 16. The crash score is 89%. Compared with the Japanese, German and American models above, the collision scores of those three models are all above 90%. Compared with German Volkswagen Tiguan, the injury degree of the dummy is less than that of peugeot 3008.

Degree of collision injury in Renault Correga

Frontal bias and side impact, dummy injury is relatively small, only in the whipping test rear-end collision, the front passenger's neck protection is at the passing edge.

Compared with Japanese, German and American cars of the same level, the biggest problem of French cars is that the replacement cycle is too long. For example, Citroen C5 was a product in 2009, which was not only sold in China market, but also no new models were launched in European market.

The main reason for the long replacement cycle is that the sales of French cars are not as good as those of other Japanese, German and American cars, and there is no more money invested in the research and development of new models. Other cars are replaced every three years and every five to six years, while many French cars have to be sold for seven to eight years.

The problems caused by this, other cars can make up for the safety problems in the crash test in small steps, and improve the technical level of a brand in the safety field. At this time, French cars are still old platforms and outdated body structures, and the gap with Japanese, German and American cars of the same level will gradually widen with the passage of time.

What French cars can leave behind is the romantic design worshipped by loyal fans of France, the glory of rally and a little bit of minority feelings.

The quality of French cars can be said to be no problem, but the sales volume has been flat, which is a problem worth pondering. I once stayed in a Peugeot shop for a while. Fully understand the particularity of French cars!

Advantages: French cars are very practical in working materials, including the choice of cooperative manufacturers such as tire headlights, which are very well-known brands in this industry. In the process of vehicle manufacturing, French cars are basically stamped as a whole. For example, the shape of the door is directly stamped with a whole steel plate, and the remaining raw materials are wasted, but the overall quality is meaningless. Nowadays, in order to save energy and materials, many manufacturers adopt welding technology, such as welding the remaining two steel plates into car doors. In this way, although there is no waste of materials, the quality is not as good as the whole stamping. French cars have adopted the best cost requirements in their main parts.

Disadvantages: French cars are interesting. Although the advantages mentioned above work so well, which sales are still bleak? This is the French temper. Take the China market as an example. French cars have been tepid for a long time in the China market, and have been depressed. Why? Because it doesn't know much about the China market and the preferences of China people. According to Peugeot, this wonderful car design of 207,307 is really ugly at first sight, and China people also like to save face. Who will drive a car that others say is ugly, let alone feel ugly. However, in the past two years, French cars have gradually made a breakthrough in the appearance of cars, especially Peugeot's upcoming 5008, which is only called the most beautiful SUV by netizens. However, there is another big life door for French cars, which is low configuration. There is a world of difference between low-end and top-end models. /kloc-there are many cars with a price of 0/00000 yuan, and the low-priced cars are not as good as the domestic cars with a price of 50000 yuan, which is also a big problem now.

As for whether the French car is good or not, it still depends on which angle to look at!

In the eyes of many people, there are only two kinds of cars in the world, one is French car and the other is other cars. Because the French are irrational, the project will give way to design, and the French will design very beautiful cars, but the problem is that what the French think is beautiful is not necessarily what others think. In China, there is a strange phenomenon. On the internet, the evaluation of French cars has become polarized, and the discussion on the praise and criticism of French cars is very fierce.

Advantages: First, the quality of French cars is excellent. Laser welding, double-sided zinc plating, cavity wax injection and other automobile technologies improve the rigidity of the car body and prolong its service life, which is not inferior to Japanese, German and American cars in France. Second, French cars are controlled accurately. Third, maintaining and saving money is also an obvious advantage of French cars. Economically, the French are still very practical.

Despite these advantages, the sales of French cars in China are very low for the following reasons: First, the appearance does not meet the aesthetic standards of China people. As we all know, the French pursue romance in life and cars. The French believe that the best is the best, and will not deliberately change the design of cars to cater to the tastes of China people. . Looking at the German, Korean and Japanese models, we can leave the French cars far behind in design.

Second: positioning and pricing are wonderful. Some products of French cars are positioned too high, but these models make everyone feel that they are not worth the price. This will confuse you, and you will definitely not buy it. This situation is still caused by the poor operation of French cars, and now we have to reduce the price!

Third: not smart enough. Japanese cars will build fuel-efficient and easy-to-use cars according to the preferences of Chinese people, just like those cars with stable technology but not seeking innovation, even if they have less equipment and low safety, they can still be popular! Look at the Germans again, because China people like the atmosphere. Therefore, their models are all kinds of extended wheelbase and extended body. Even if they burn engine oil or break the axle, people in China can buy them at will!

You don't know the dark ways of French cars.

1. steel plate, fully galvanized steel plate, good rust resistance. Remember the rusty door of 3 15? As the owner of the car dismantling shop said, after dismantling the car, the cars under the chassis are all good, Japanese cars, hehe. How many bare boards are there? Who knows who opened 10 years.

2. door. Stupid French just insist on stamping the car door into a whole, without the process of tailor-welding from top to bottom, knowing that the cost of tailor-welding can be 30% cheaper and easy to process. The integrated stamping door can help the owner to block the impact of Taishan coping at the critical moment. Remember the triumph car in Wenchuan in May 2008 12? Japanese, Korean and even many general-purpose models are tailor-welded doors, which has nothing to do with side impact, but with the head.

3. glass. The glass thickness of French people is generally one level thicker than that of Japanese people. For example, Tiida is 3.2MM, Xiao Ai is 3.5 mm, and the impact resistance requirements of 3.5 and 3.2 in GB9656 are completely different. The rear windshields of C5, C4 and Lc4C6 are all reversed. It increases the opening and high-speed stability of the suitcase, but it is 50% more expensive than ordinary glass. Do you know these?

There are many others. The French are stubborn and gibberish. But these dark characteristics deserve our deep thought and consideration.

French cars have driven three cars, one of which is the symbol of Guangzhou 505 n years ago, and it is diesel. One is the Fukang automatic gear bought around 2003, which seems to be called 998. Finally, I bought the manual minimum version of logo 207 around 12.

Let's not talk about the technology 505 years ago, before liberation, and the model during Guangxu period.

The automatic transmission Fukang has been used for more than a year, and there has been no problem during this period. At that time, I was young and drove better. Citroen's steering and cornering have always been considered to have advantages, and I feel the same way. Although Fukang's body is not heavy, high-speed cornering can still reassure drivers. Sometimes when you get off the highway, you don't slow down at 100 km/h.

In particular, I want to praise the cheap car 207, which has been used for three years. At that time, 207 just came out and saw many car reviews recommending this car, so I bought one for fun. In the past three years, there has been no problem except oil change and maintenance. My previous speed on the highway was around 170, but this speed of 207 was a bit drifting. The psychological feeling is not as stable as the same small Volkswagen Goyle (Goyle is not golf).

The overall feeling of French cars gave me a good impression. I wanted to buy an 08 a few years ago, but I bought a bigger Chery Tiggo 5.

I don't understand why distinctive French cars are so neglected in the domestic market.

I drove 14 C4L 1.8 manually. So far, I have been driving for two years and four months, running more than 30 thousand kilometers. Practically speaking, this car is not bad. What's so good about it? First, configuration, EPS, cruise control and so on; Second, the car is thick, I have no education, and I don't know how to absorb energy and high-tech safety. When buying a car, I like to close the door and kick it. Kia K3, Honda Civic, Volkswagen Sagitar and Nissan Hacker have all opened, but I won't talk about that door. Third, the chassis is so high-speed and stable. I have never driven a good car, and I have never exceeded the speed limit. Seriously, I really don't know what a chassis is, but everyone on earth says so. There must be something wrong with the car. Is it endless? There was a crash in the engine room. Find a paper mat on it. The air conditioner makes abnormal noise during refrigeration, so adjust the counterweight. The chassis "snapped", hanging it and twisting it left and right, nothing; The electric folding rearview mirror always turns its head, and finally one day it says goodbye completely. 900 dollars is gone. Let's stop here, Dong! Citroen C4L's ass hit Buick Regal's head. Get off and have a look. Both cars are fine. "Let's go! Who are you waiting for? " Dude, didn't we agree to be a good boy?

First of all, the article is irrelevant, Zhang Guan Dai Li. Good quality means low failure rate, safety is related to design and materials, and failure rate is on two tracks.

Second, regardless of quality and safety, it is naive to take the car crash test as an arrow. The impact point of automobile crash test is fixed, so it is too easy to take advantage of loopholes. In the first half of 20 16, Toyota's safety crash test fraud was exposed in China, and the news of those fixed collision points was strengthened in the vehicles submitted for inspection. Don't selectively wear colored glasses and say you haven't seen the news.

Third, safety, I only believe in the scene of the vehicle accident I saw with my own eyes and my own driving collision experience. Of all the road accidents I 10 witnessed, no Japanese car was slightly damaged. For French cars, please search 2016 65438+127 October-18 domestic news, and the key sentence is "Don't hit Audi, hit Citroen". Look at Citroen Sega attacked by tankers and trucks on the highway. The AC column is not deformed, and the front glass is only slightly cracked. Can Japan and South Korea resist the attack of such a big car? Ha ha.

Roll down at a speed of 80. See if the quality is up to standard. . . . . .

The quality of French cars is poor-comprehensive quality is the standard of evaluating brands "European level";

These are the three major brands of French cars, but Renault must be excluded first. Because the joint venture between Dongfeng and Renault has ended, 50% of Renault's equity has been transferred to Dongfeng, and the era of Renault's joint venture passenger car has ended again; Renault Brilliance, which is dominated by commercial vehicles, came to an end because of the end of Brilliance. Although Renault said that Brilliance Auto and Renault brilliance jinbei are independent entities in different places, they are still operating normally, with a year-on-year decline of nearly half, and the impact of Brilliance image on Jinbei, Renault's outcome is also easy to predict.

Why did Renault lose so completely?

The "Japan-France cooperation" between Renault Nissan and Brilliance is an inevitable factor for Renault's failure.

At the node where Nissan was on the verge of bankruptcy, Renault acquired a part of Nissan's equity and actually controlled the operation of Nissan brand. For a long time, Nissan had to obey the orders of French companies, which was not the Japanese character and an acceptable solution. The ambition of this tiny place is even more exaggerated than America's Asia-Pacific strategy.

Renault seems to think that Nissan Nissan has been fixed, and the influence of French cars in the China market is very poor, which Renault knows well; However, Japanese cars have gradually penetrated into Fujian, Guangdong and Qiong through the influence of automobile culture in Hong Kong and Taiwan, and the introduction of Japanese brands will have better results. Therefore, the focus of brand planning seems to be Nissan, and Renault has just built two SUVs with Nissan car shells, and the quality can be imagined.

The technical level of Nissan can be said to be quite poor. The old 1.6L engine has weak power and has the problem of burning engine oil. The problem of black smoke from the tail gas of 2.0L direct injection self-priming engine lasts for a long time. QR25-2.5L engine still adopts multi-point injection technology, with outstanding characteristics of poor power and high fuel consumption.

Jiekete's CVT not only has the problems of slipping and low temperature protection, but also has the shortcomings of acceleration process, and the failure rate of solenoid valve is also relatively high. Renault's use of these technologies is bound to fail, because European car users generally have higher requirements for the quality and performance of vehicles, and Nissan cars with different shells will definitely not be able to meet them. This is the core factor of Renault's failure. The key point is that after Renault CEO Ghosn was pieced together by Nissan, Renault lost its dominant position in the alliance. Like the story of the forty-seven gentlemen, Nissan still "swallowed the Lord" after forbearing, and the future Nissan is basically terrible.

Four brands of Peugeot Citroen:

The first three brands all know that they belong to PSA Group, which is the most famous automobile company in France. The European car market itself is not very large, and it is even more dangerous under the impact of the epidemic. So PSA merged with FCA (Fiat Chrysler). Many people think this is a powerful alliance. In fact, this is "holding a group to warm up."

FCA is a company led by the Italian government in the crisis stage of Italian automobile industry. Just like Germany's new automobile alliance, the development history of European automobile industry is actually quite bumpy, with neither so-called craftsman quality nor rigorous attitude, except for a few ultra-high-end brands that regard cars as works of art.

PSA's three major brands focus on cheap and fast-selling cars in Europe, and the options of diesel-powered small and mini-cars are enough to illustrate product positioning; You know, Britain, France, Germany and other countries classify automobile emission standards very carefully. According to the emission of CO2, the charge of viscosity exceeding the standard of 2k is levied. Among them, the French standard is more exaggerated, so there will be some diesel vehicles with poor comprehensive quality but lower fuel consumption in France.

To put it bluntly, Peugeot Citroen itself is not as high-quality as expected, and the quality of vehicles produced by the joint venture company is actually lower; For example, Peugeot 408 should be the vehicle with the largest number of failures of compact cars this year, and the total number is about to break1k. Although the top ten brands are German, Japanese and Korean joint venture brands, the last one is embarrassing. Engine oil burning, gearbox frustration, tire cracking, assembly technology and other problems also explain the quality problems of vehicles.

Attitude analysis: PSA can't improve the quality control level, the problem is that it doesn't want to improve. What is the cause of tire bulge cracking? Obviously, the poor quality of the purchased tires is the result of uncontroversial matching behavior. It is said that Peugeot Citroen's torsion beam is of high level. Although other car companies laugh it off, isn't it "better" to replace the torsion beam with multiple connecting rods?

But PSA does not do this, because France is not only arrogant but also an anti-China country; Many people mentioned that Germany only thought of the so-called "rigor", but forgot what Nazi was. When they mention France, they think of romance. But how many people know that Germany and France were formerly Franks in the East and West, and were formerly standard pirate countries.

The United States is dominated by white people in Europe, so these countries themselves think that white people in Europe are the core of the world. It is technically difficult to expect them to manufacture cars with a normal mind and strict and high standards, let alone face the China automobile market, which is the core of the Asia-Pacific region. Therefore, the mainstream German cars and unpopular French cars are actually very poor. It's just that some well-known practices of long-term rendering of European culture have made some people stupid, otherwise they won't believe in the quality of craftsmen.

Description: DS brand has been abandoned by Changan Automobile, and now it belongs to Baoneng, dubbed as "junk brand recycling station". Peugeot Citroen has also laid off employees who are cautious about 4k, and two factories in Wuhan have been sold, and there is basically no future.

After all, the two engines of PSA are still not enough compared with before, and the problem of burning oil is still relatively common; The gearbox technology is blank, and the problem of 6/8AT using Aisin Seiki is outstanding (common problems, including Volkswagen Changan Volvo and other brands also have the same problem). Coupled with the impact of Renault's failure on the overall image of French cars, we can confirm the failure of French cars in the China market-French cars can choose their own if they have preferences, but they are definitely not recommended from a professional point of view.

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The owner of C5 passed by, and there was something wrong with the window. In winter, cars click up and down. What they are dissatisfied with is that the fuel consumption in the urban area is too high and the rear space is an A-class car. . Everything else is OK. The high-speed stability and standard constant-speed cruise are the reasons why I chose C5 at first, but I still regret it now. Running at high speed is not much, which leads to high oil consumption in urban areas. 12+. Talk about quality? Every brand and every batch of cars may have faults.