Let the black ball be X.
Then the probability that there are no black balls in these five times is p = (64-x)/64 * (63-x)/64 * ... * (60-x)/64.
Conclusion needs P.
When x=9, p is about 0.46.
When x=8, p is about 0.5 1.
Therefore, there must be at least nine black balls to ensure the conclusion is established.